{"id":6477,"date":"2017-02-20T20:38:55","date_gmt":"2017-02-20T20:38:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.plato-philosophy.org\/?post_type=teachertoolkit&#038;p=6477"},"modified":"2025-02-19T15:27:20","modified_gmt":"2025-02-19T23:27:20","slug":"nagels-like-bat","status":"publish","type":"teachertoolkit","link":"https:\/\/plato-philosophy.org\/teachertoolkit\/nagels-like-bat\/","title":{"rendered":"Nagel&#8217;s What is it like to be a bat?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In his article, \u201cWhat is it like to be a bat?\u201d Thomas Nagel argues that there are facts about conscious experience that are subjective and can only be known from that subjective perspective. Even if we know all the objective facts about bats, we may not actually know what it would really be like to be a bat. We might be able to imagine what it would be like to hang upside down, fly through the night, or use echolocation to track prey, but Nagel argues that we couldn\u2019t know what a bat\u2019s experience is <em>really<\/em> like.<\/p>\n<p>Start off with this simple question\/s (with an example of a cat instead of a bat):<\/p>\n<p>What is it like to be a cat? Imagine that you are a cat. What would you do? What would you feel?\u00a0(If you\u2019re teaching elementary school, you can even ask them to act like a cat.)<\/p>\n<p>(Allow students to respond.)<\/p>\n<p>Now, you have told us some of the things you would do and how you would feel if you were in the cat\u2019s shoes, but do you really know what it is like to be a cat? Have you smelled catnip? Do you get excited when you smell catnip? We know how excited a cat gets when they smell catnip, but we don\u2019t know really how they feel. Even though we know lots of things about cats, we don\u2019t have the same experience; so can we really know their experience? Can we really know what it is like to be anyone other than ourselves?<\/p>\n<p>(Allow students to respond, and see what questions arise.)<\/p>\n<p>Some follow-up questions may include:<\/p>\n<p>What is it like to be a fish? Or an ant? Can we really know how another being thinks or feels?<\/p>\n<p>How do we know whether a computer (or a plant or a rock) is conscious? If they are conscious, can we know what it is like?<\/p>\n<p>How do we know that the person sitting next to you is conscious? 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