{"id":4276,"date":"2021-05-13T18:21:00","date_gmt":"2021-05-14T01:21:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/development.plato-philosophy.org\/seen-and-not-heard\/"},"modified":"2021-05-13T18:21:00","modified_gmt":"2021-05-14T01:21:00","slug":"seen-and-not-heard","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/plato-philosophy.org\/seen-and-not-heard\/","title":{"rendered":"Seen and Not Heard"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.philosophyforchildren.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/41C45A55-6D4A-4454-9C02-800EBE318437_4_5005_c.jpeg\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"><img decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"506\" data-original-width=\"315\" height=\"320\" src=\"https:\/\/www.philosophyforchildren.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/41C45A55-6D4A-4454-9C02-800EBE318437_4_5005_c-187x300.jpeg\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\">\n<p style=\"margin: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Last month saw the release of my new book&nbsp;<i><a href=\"\/\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"color: blue;\">Seen and Not Heard: Why Children&#8217;s Voices Matter<\/span><\/a>.&nbsp;<\/i>The book describes and analyzes conversations I have had with children over the past 25 years about their philosophical questions and ideas.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Here is an excerpt:<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">In the following conversation about the ethics of attending friends\u2019 birthday parties, some ten-year-old children discuss whether friendship requires always \u201cshowing up\u201d for the significant events in our friends\u2019 lives.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in; text-indent: 0.5in;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Jade: &#8220;It\u2019s okay to want to be alone. If your friend is having a birthday party, and it\u2019s not like you don\u2019t like them or anything, but you don&#8217;t want to go. You\u2019re not trying to hurt their feelings. You just don\u2019t want to spend time at that and so you don\u2019t.\u201d<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in; text-indent: 0.5in;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Noah: &#8220;I actually disagree with that. Having a birthday party isn\u2019t a good example. You don&#8217;t do that. If it&#8217;s your friend and it&#8217;s their birthday, you don&#8217;t just say, &#8216;Oh, I can\u2019t go to your birthday party because I want to be alone.&#8217; You don&#8217;t do that. It&#8217;s your friend, so it&#8217;s worth it. You don\u2019t just miss something like that.&#8221;&nbsp;<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in; text-indent: 0.5in;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Kayla: \u201cI respectfully disagree with that. Sometimes you feel alone and you can really wish them a happy birthday but say you\u2019re not feeling quite up to it right now. Just say that you don\u2019t want to come because you\u2019re going through something or you really feel like you need some time alone. Some people feel like that. It\u2019s not really disrespectful in most cases if you don\u2019t go. If you just don\u2019t go, maybe they\u2019ll think you don\u2019t care, but if you say, \u2018Today I just want some time alone, I wish you a happy birthday, and I will talk to you tomorrow or maybe next week or something.\u2019&#8221;&nbsp;<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in; text-indent: 0.5in;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Beth: \u201cIf you just feel kind of lonely and down, and it\u2019s a birthday party with a lot of people or even not a lot of people, but you just don\u2019t feel like working yourself up to it. If you want to be alone, then if they\u2019re a really good friend, they\u2019ll probably understand.\u201d<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in; text-indent: 0.5in;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><span style=\"background-color: white;\">Avery: \u201c<\/span>I think it depends on how old you are. If you\u2019re older, it\u2019s different. If you\u2019re younger, you need to go to things now because you might not be able to go to things as frequently when you\u2019re older. When you\u2019re older, sometimes you can\u2019t show up, but now you don\u2019t have anything else to do. When you\u2019re older you\u2019ll have things you need to focus on.\u201d<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in; text-indent: 0.5in;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Scarlett: &#8220;I would feel disappointed and sad if a friend didn\u2019t come to my party, but I would think they probably had a good reason. It might not be as much fun without them, but I should respect them.\u201d<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in; text-indent: 0.5in;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Holly: \u201cIf it was my best friend, I would feel upset. Why would you not come to my party just because you want to be alone? But if it was a friend that I just met, I wouldn\u2019t be as disappointed. If the reason was that a good friend just wanted to be alone, that would make me feel sad.\u201d<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Scarlett says that she would trust that her friend had a good reason for failing to appear as promised. In her view, on the one hand, not showing up for an important event is less likely to damage a close friendship because you assume the absence is for a good reason; on the other hand, several of the children seem to agree that the closer the friend, the greater the obligation to attend. Kayla, however, disagrees. She believes in honesty \u2013 if you don\u2019t want to go, you don\u2019t, and you candidly tell your friend you prefer to be alone.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Kayla\u2019s view implies that a friend wouldn\u2019t want you to do something you don\u2019t want to do and would appreciate hearing the truth. But Holly maintains that wanting to be alone is a weak reason for not going; the closer the friendship, the greater our disappointment and hurt when a weak reason leads to a friend\u2019s non-attendance. You might be more likely to accept, or simply care less about, a weak reason from a distant acquaintance who fails to show up. From a good friend, however, you expect a good reason.&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Avery says that your obligations to attend your friends\u2019 events depend on your age. \u201cIf you\u2019re older, it\u2019s different.\u201d&nbsp;&nbsp;In some ways, then, perhaps children have fewer excuses for failing to show up at important events for their friends, as most (though certainly not all) children do not tend to be shouldering multiple other significant obligations. Adults generally have to juggle attending a particular event with other competing demands on our time, so arguably having less time for our friends\u2019 occasions seems more justifiable. Nevertheless, dedicating some time to showing up for our friends does seem essential, no matter our age.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">This conversation made me think about my own expectations of friendship. I try to go to all of my friends\u2019 big events and expect that they will be there for mine, if feasible. I tend to agree with Noah: \u201cYou don\u2019t just miss something like that.\u201d But then I reflect about the question that Kayla\u2019s point raises: Do we want our friends to come to our events solely out of feelings of obligation if they have no desire to be there? I wonder: if a friend really preferred to stay home, should I want that for them too, rather than letting my desire take precedence? The conversation led me to reexamine my belief that people should always show up for the events that matter to their friends. As I think about it, I come to see that asking a friend to do something that they really don\u2019t want to do, not because they don\u2019t love me, but because it is uncomfortable for them for some reason, is not an act of friendship.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Scarlett comments that although she would feel disappointed, she would respect the choice her friend is making, and Beth contends that if you are \u201cfeeling lonely and down\u201d and just not up to attending, your friend \u201cwill probably understand.\u201d We don\u2019t expect our friends to be just like us. One friend might be very social and extroverted, and the other more introverted and less social. If friendship involves being able to \u201cbe yourself\u201d and be understood and supported, should we expect our friends to attend our events if we know that they will not enjoy them? Part of friendship might be that we understand that our friends are different from us and will be more or less comfortable than we are in various situations.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">The children assess whether different reasons for an action can determine whether the action is acceptable. Holly claims that the closer the friend, the better the reason should be to justify not showing up. On the one hand, if I threw a big party for a significant birthday and a close friend did not attend due to an important competing obligation, I would understand. On the other hand, if the friend\u2019s non-attendance was because the evening of the party was a night that the friend wanted to stay home and watch a movie, I think I would feel hurt. My disappointment would stem from my hope that someone close to me would&nbsp;<i>want&nbsp;<\/i>to be at the party, and it would change my view of the friendship to discover that attending didn\u2019t matter very much to them. By contrast, if someone I barely knew didn\u2019t show up in order to stay home and watch television, I think Scarlett is right \u2013 this would seem much less important.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Jana Mohr Lone is the director of the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.philosophyforchildren.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">University of Washington Center for Philosophy for Children<\/a>, and her most recent book is&nbsp;<i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Seen-Not-Heard-Childrens-Voices\/dp\/1475843232\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Seen and Not Heard<\/a>.<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Last month saw the release of my new book&nbsp;Seen and Not Heard: Why Children&#8217;s Voices Matter.&nbsp;The book describes and analyzes conversations I have had with children over the past 25 years about their philosophical questions and ideas.&nbsp; Here is an excerpt: &nbsp; In the following conversation about the ethics of attending friends\u2019 birthday parties, some <a href=\"https:\/\/plato-philosophy.org\/seen-and-not-heard\/\" class=\"more-link\">&#8230;<span class=\"screen-reader-text\">  Seen and Not Heard<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":4555,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[196,195],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4276","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-philosophy-for-children","category-wondering-aloud"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - 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